Anti-Anti-Feminist: kramerllama: antiantifeminist: Religious conservatives/religious...
Religious conservatives/religious people preach pro-abstinence sex-ed, then get surprised when young girls like this one kill their babies and condemn her, calling her “baby killer,” “murderer,” “sociopath”…
Shut the fuck up, you might as well have…
Let’s start at the end of this, and work our way up.
I assure you that if this teenage girl and others like her knew what condoms were and how to prevent pregnancy, they would have had sex with one, thus avoiding the “consequences” (pregnancy) of their actions. But they were denied such knowledge because of Catholic values. Therefore such values are equally to blame for this child’s death.
How do you know she was never exposed to sex ed, or contraceptives? I went to public school for 7 years, and I can tell you I learned about birth control, condoms, what sex was, the different kinds of sex, and all that good stuff back in 5th and 6th grade. When I went onto Catholic school in 8th grade, and throughout high school, I was still being educated on contraceptives, and sex ed. So I am having a hard time believing that this girl was never exposed to the idea of contraceptives, or even the boy for that matter who knocked her up.
I’m personally of the opinion that cis men shouldn’t have opinions on pregnancy, being that they themselves will never get pregnant, nor ever have to experience being forced to keep a zygote and gaining lots of weight, throwing up every morning, and enduring a strenuous labor.
I think a man should have just as much input on these kinds of issues as a woman, because quite simply, you need a man to get pregnant. Even artificial insemination, you still need a mans sperm. Getting a girl pregnant, especially when the man is unprepared for a child, can be very stressful for the man. I’m not doubting that women will have it rougher than guys, but guys can have it rough too. Happened to me twice, and both times I was freaking out to what I was gonna do, and how I was gonna take care of the child. Thankfully, nothing happened, but even if it had, I would have found a way to take care of the child. Maybe I’m one of the few though.
When it’s in the womb, it’s a zygote. A mass of cells and tissue. It’s not a human being. It’s not even legally a human being, because under the law, 2 persons cannot coexist within one body. America isn’t a theocracy. We promote the separation of church and state
I agree and disagree. Agree, America isn’t a theocracy, and separation of church and state is there. However, abortion isn’t necessarily a religious issue, and exclusive only to Catholicism, but rather a moral issue that can be seen in all creeds. Some see the child in the womb as a living human being, others do not, in which the question arises what makes a human a human? And Martha Nussbaum has a nice list of what makes a human a human, I suggest you give it a read.
Conservatives tout “adoption” like it’s some sort of easy alternative option. It’s not. Not to mention that once you give birth, that child exists; it will probably wonder about who its biological mother is.
Well, in the case of the girl in the article, adoption would have been a better alternative to choking the life out of the child. As for the child wondering about its biological mother, adoption agencies do allow the option of the biological mother visiting her child, and keep in contact with them.